Thursday, February 18, 2010
Wells Fargo Visits Appraiser Active!
Reactions to Wells Fargo RVS Desktop Appraisal Announcement
Mr. Ramirez,
Thank you for your message and expression of concerns.
You may wish to know the post you found to be offensive has been modified. Instead of the Wachovia email, I reference an email from another person/entity with essentially the same information. That email DID NOT come from Wachovia.
Of concern is the fact you did not take issue with any of the points made in my post on Appraiser Active. Instead, your preference was to avoid disclosure, openness and discussion.
This “product” referenced in the email sent to appraisers from coast to coast has been discussed and debated extensively among appraisers, state regulators, AQB Certified USPAP Instructors, past members of the Appraisal Standards Board and users of appraisal services over the past few days. The consensus is that there are serious problems with the terms of the offering by Wachovia.
- It is undeniably a contingent fee arrangement.
- The contingent fee arrangement does not comply with USPAP.
- The contingent fee arrangement does not comply with Florida law.
- Appraisers may be in violation of the Scope of Work Rule by accepting the assignment conditions dictated by the Client.
In the event you would like to discuss these issues or make a statement with respect to making corrections or modifications, I would certainly be interested. State regulatory agencies from Florida to Washington State would be interested as well.
In the meantime, I wish you well.
Respectfully,
Frank
Francois (Frank) K. Gregoire IFA RAA
Gregoire & Gregoire, Inc.
Realtor - Appraiser
P.S. Several folks with an interest in the outcome have been blind copied on this email.
A letter from XXXXX could be directed to the Comptroller's office describing how such practices are contrary to their need for ethical, competent appraisers to provide appraisals for collateral decisions. Wells Fargo wants to engage an appraiser, but they only pay for the appraisal is the appraiser is able to report certain predetermined results (e.g. at least two comps in the last 120 days, at least 2 comps within 1 mile, all comps must be listed in MLS, etc.). The problem, of course, is that such fee arrangements are prohibited by USPAP because they inspire unethical behavior by the appraiser.
Since we are all appraisal regulatory agencies, we are bound to process the complaints that inevitably will result from such a business practice. If the appraisers agree to those assignment conditions, they have already violated USPAP. Whether it was Wells Fargo's idea is a moot point as far as our Board. If your friend recommends you break the speed limit, and you do it, you are going to get the speeding ticket, not them.
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I do not think XXXX should take an advocacy position on behalf of real estate appraisers; however, an advisory letter to the Comptrollers office on the above USPAP requirement, wouldn't be overreaching our mission statement, I think.
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My opinion is what Wells Fargo is attempting to do with it's desktop program, requesting a "hit" or "no hit" is a blatant attempt for appraisers to accept assignments based on pre-determined results.
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As most of you know I don't "weigh in" on most things, I sit back and observe what others are saying and doing. This group has, over the past 10 years provided me with a tremendous amount of very good advice and "food for thought" and for that I am very grateful. We have seen both good and bad times in this industry. I realize that our industry is constantly changing and evolving, some change is good and some is bad.
This current issue is bad. I only have two questions for now; 1. What are we as a group going to do about it or can we even do anything about it? 2. When the complaints start coming in (and they will) do we just accept it or do we hand it back to Wells etal and tell them that we, "Can't cure stupid"?
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After 4 years of college, 3 years of experience and years of learning, we now have the opportunity to earn $25.50 per day that won't even cover most of the fees that are required to maintain the data services that are required to complete this "product." Is this a hoax? Did they leave off the first number? A BPO is better than this. No wonder the banks have needed bail outs. This is the most insulting and incredulous thing I've seen yet.
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What a mess! Hard to be it could reach such a low. Seems like they will not be happy until they can have the value before the appraisal is completed!
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You go Frank! We are meeting today to finalize our position on this product and hope to send an email blast to our licensees shortly.
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The XXXXX Board may issue an official advisory opinion regarding this product that will address the contingent fee arrangement and advise licensees of the board’s position.

GUIDANCE CONCERNING DESKTOP APPRAISAL ORDERS
A new desktop appraisal product was released in February 2010. The Appraisal Board has received numerous telephone calls and emails about this product and others that are similar. Although the Board does not approve or prohibit specific forms or software used to deliver appraisal results, the Board does have several concerns about this type of assignment.
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Saturday, February 13, 2010
WHAT ABOUT THAT WELLS FARGO RVS DESKTOP APPRAISAL?
Greetings,Recently the following posts were added to your forum, the links of which are included below:
The posts include information that is confidential, proprietary, and intended only for the use of the owner of the e-mail address listed as the recipient of the original message. The posts did not include the email disclaimer originally included and is shown below for your review:The information contained in this electronic message is confidential, proprietary, and intended only for the use of the owner of the e-mail address listed as the recipient of this message. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying of this communication, or unauthorized use is strictly prohibited and subject to prosecution to the fullest extent of the law. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this electronic message and DO NOT ACT UPON, FORWARD, COPY OR OTHERWISE DISSEMINATE IT OR ITS CONTENTS.Please remove any and all posts that include the information of this email in whole or in part, as this is a violation of its intended use.Please advise me if legal recourse is necessary to have these posts removed from your website.Thank you,
Jose J. RamirezWeb Developer IIIResidential Valuation ServicesTelephone (210)543-5921Fax (210)543-3128Mail Code T7400-01E
The new "product" is the Wells Fargo RVS Desktop Appraisal. Included was a link to a PDF with instructions and guidance for:
- Compensation
- Appraisal Requirements
- Instructions for completing the "product"
- How to submit your name and be awarded contingent fee assignments for this exciting "product"
These folks also announce that appraisal requests would start on Saturday, February 13th. SATURDAY!! What's up with these folks?
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It's yours to decide if you would like to accept an assignment from an outfit that cannot spell "APPRAISER".

It's yours to decide if accepting assignments that pay $55.00 (net $51.00) is part of the business plan you have adopted.

Fees (Compensation), Charges, and Service Level Agreement (SLA)1. The fee (compensation) paid for completing this product is $55.2. There is an AppraisalPort charge to you of $4 for each assignment completed and returned with a value.3. There will be no fee paid for a “No-Hit”, and no charge to you for returning a "No-Hit” through AppraisalPort. (Note: This product has a “No-Hit” component which means that either it is an ineligible property type or you were unable to develop a credible value. The compensation of $55 takes into consideration that you will from time to time have a “No-Hit”. For more on “No-Hits”, see the report instructions on page 6.)4. There will be no additional charges to you for using Data Express provided that you are only accessing the RVS Desktop Form and Location Map features. Using any other features (plat map, comps search, etc.) will result in additional charges (refer to published pricing plan in Data Express). RVS and WSS are not responsible for any additional charges that you incur completing these assignments.5. The Service Level Agreement (or turnaround time) is two (2) days.6. All of these reports will be reviewed by the RVS Quality Control Department and reports returned to you for correction must be resubmitted within 24 hours.
(17) Has accepted an appraisal assignment if the employment itself is contingent upon the appraiser reporting a predetermined result, analysis, or opinion, or if the fee to be paid for the performance of the appraisal assignment is contingent upon the opinion, conclusion, or valuation reached upon the consequences resulting from the appraisal assignment.
Tuesday, October 20, 2009
Home Valuation Code Has Improved Appraisal Quality?
Though it is early in the process, Freddie Mac said it has seen a tangible improvement in the quality of appraisals of loans it buys since the Home Valuation Code of Conduct took effect.Patricia McClung, Freddie's vice president of offerings management, said at the Mortgage Bankers Association's convention here last week that of the appraisals the government-sponsored enterprise receives, 15% more have come acceptably close to the automated valuation model it runs as a check.
The improved quality of mortgages bought by Freddie and Fannie Mae reduces the repurchase risk for mortgage lenders because of lower defect rates, she said.
Marko Berishaj, a vice president at DartAppraisal.com, a Troy, Mich., management company, said the code is not responsible for a rise in appraisal costs. He cited three factors, including supply and demand: more appraisals ordered but fewer available appraisers. In addition, he said, the cost for appraisers to comply with new certification requirements is being passed along. And finally, the requirement for a market conditions report has also added to expenses.
During a question-and-answer session, one mortgage banker said that in her experience management companies are using out-of-area appraisers to do desk reviews and she has had to educate these people.
Kathy Coon, the chief appraiser at FNC Inc.,** an Oxford, Miss., technology company, replied that if the mortgage banker was using an appraisal management company but had to educate the appraiser it was time to find a different company. But another mortgage banker in the audience countered that, as correspondents, they do not always get to choose which appraisal management company to use. Otherwise, it would be easy to switch, he said.**(Appraiser Active) They can call themselves whatever they want, but they're still an AMC
This is a story of how my $290,000 home was appraised for $115,000.
The tale begins in 2004, when my wife and I decided to buy a three-bedroom, two-bath 1920s bungalow in Ormewood Park in southeast Atlanta. It had been lovingly renovated by the previous owners, who’d also added a new master bedroom and dining room.
The appraiser hired by the lender, Wells Fargo, took measurements and shot several photos as he tromped through our toy-strewn house.
He jotted a few things down on a form and left.
We put it out of our minds until mid-June, when the appraisal results arrived in the mail. I couldn’t believe what I read.
How could our house, purchased just five years before for almost $300,000, be worth just $115,000?
Didn’t the appraiser notice the pristine renovation? The original fireplace? What about the high ceilings, the plantation shutters, hardwood floors, granite counters and the spacious master bath?
Another shock: The $115,000 valuation was far below what our home had sold for in 2002, before being renovated and enlarged.
In the meantime, I scoured the report to try to figure out what had happened.
The appraiser used three recent sales in our area —comparables — to generate what he deemed our house’s market value. But two of those sales were foreclosures. One nearby house had sold “as is” for $129,000. The other, located on a traffic-clogged main street a half-mile and a world away from our quiet street, had gone for just $80,000.
I decided to check on the higher-priced home. Its new owner welcomed me inside and showed off its handsome hardwood floors and shiny stainless-steel appliances. But he laughed when I explained why I showed up on his doorstep.
When he’d bought it, he said, the house was in terrible shape. The floors were covered with damp, mildewed carpet. The water heater was broken. Someone had ripped out and stolen the appliances. The kitchen sink didn’t work.
He’d fixed it up nicely, though it lacked the back porch and dining room our home has. But still, our bank’s appraiser had valued our home much lower than his — before he’d made any improvements.
A Wells Fargo spokesman said the company takes appraisals very seriously.



