Sunday, February 4, 2018
FREAB Meeting - February 5, 2018 - EVALUATIONS!!
The legal agenda is light; only four cases are on the docket. All involve consideration of a Settlement Stipulation by the FREAB. Nevertheless, there is always a chance something interesting will be discussed, and a learning opportunity will result.
Things are bound to get interesting around 1:00 P.M. At that time the board is scheduled to take up a Discussion of Evaluations. This discussion was prompted by amendments to Chapter 475 Part II as a result of HB 927, passed by the 2017 Florida Legislature, and signed into law by Governor Rick Scott. The amendments became effective October 1, 2017.
There is plenty to say about the amendments, and the attempt to soften standards applicable to the services provided by Florida Appraisers. Rather than reproduce everything here, Appraiser Active suggests you take a look at the documents to be considered by the FREAB, including the comment letter from yours truly. CLICK HERE. My comments start on page 29 of the pdf.
If you have a chance to attend the meeting and weigh in, I'm sure the FREAB will welcome you comments. If not, the meeting will be live streamed. TUNE IN and hear the conversation and how the board decides to proceed. If thee TUNE IN link above does not direct you to the GoTo meeting page, use this LINK and click on live stream.
Saturday, September 6, 2014
Home Valuation Code of Conduct?
One aspect of appraisals NOT examined pre- and post-HVCC, is appraisal quality.
Tuesday, December 14, 2010
Pick a Number, any Number - Who to Blame?
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Aaron and Beth Stiner are renters, but not by choice and not because they can't afford to buy a house. They had a move-up home in Phoenix selected and good credit scores. They even had buyers lined up for the home they were selling. Then they entered appraisal hell.
Read the full story HERE.
The first appraisal on their chosen home came in at $295,000, a figure that both the Stiners and the sellers agreed upon. The lender didn't like it, and ordered up a second appraisal. Based on comparable homes that were in a different neighborhood, the new appraisal came in $25,000 lower -- too low to allow the loan to go through.
They switched lenders and got another appraisal that, at $290,000, would have allowed the deal to go through. Their new lender was skeptical, and ordered up another appraisal. At the same time, the home they were selling was appraised three times, with each subsequent valuation falling.
Four months later, the Stiners and their buyer both gave up. Together, they were out $1,600 for seven appraisals. "As a result, we are now renting our home out, and renting the home we wanted to buy," says Beth. "We were frustrated and we weren't going to keep doling out cash for new appraisals. It felt like a game."
During the build up to the boom time and housing bubble, the loan originiators and lenders were pushing and shopping for the highest number from the appraiser. It's now come full circle; if the lender doesn't like the number the first appraiser delivers, they start shopping for a lower number.
Interference with the objectivity of the appraisal process is not acceptable, no matter the direction folks are pushing the appraiser. Although it has been, and continues to be fashionable to blame the appraiser, take a close look at the story. It's the lender shopping for a "value" to their liking. By what "standard" are the appraisals being evaluated?
Saturday, June 5, 2010
Exempt Bank Owned AMCs? What are They Thinking?

Real estate appraisal improvements. The House bill would give the new consumer protection agency oversight on home mortgage appraisals and the power to create rules and standards to guarantee "appraiser independence" from pressures by lenders, realty agents and others. It also would require that once the new rules are adopted, the controversial "Home Valuation Code of Conduct" mandated last year by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac be terminated. The code has been criticized by consumers, realty agents, builders and appraisers for encouraging lowball appraisals and the use of inexperienced appraisers willing to work for low fees. The Senate bill does not have appraisal provisions, but a bipartisan push is under way to convince conferees to adopt the House version.None of the "appraisal improvements" were included in the Senate amendment to the House Bill, H.R. 4173. Some of the "appraisal improvements" are worthwhile, others not so. Among the most meaningful are amendments to FIRREA that will require states to regulate Appraisal Management Companies. (If you follow the link, start at Sec. 9503 and use the FORWARD button under the THIS DOCUMENT tab at the bottom of the page to read all the text)
Unfortunately, the above amendments also include this provision:
`SEC. 1124. APPRAISAL MANAGEMENT COMPANY MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS.
`(b) Exception for Federally Regulated Financial Institutions- The requirements of subsection (a) shall not apply to an appraisal management company that is a subsidiary owned and controlled by a financial institution and regulated by a federal financial institution regulatory agency. In such case, the appropriate federal financial institutions regulatory agency shall, at a minimum, develop regulations affecting the operations of the appraisal management company to--
`(1) verify that only licensed or certified appraisers are used for federally related transactions;
`(2) require that appraisals coordinated by an institution or subsidiary providing appraisal management services comply with the Uniform Standards of Professional Appraisal Practice; and
`(3) require that appraisals are conducted independently and free from inappropriate influence and coercion pursuant to the appraisal independence standards established under section 129E of the Truth in Lending Act.
This is preposterous!
Several states have already enacted laws to regulate Appraisal Management Companies. I’m not sure of the exact language for other states, but the bill to regulate Appraisal Management Companies recently signed into law here in Florida does not exempt ANY Appraisal Management Company from registration and regulation.
Based on comments and conversations with appraisers here in Florida and from around the country, the worst Appraisal Management Company offenders for fee abuse, unreasonable turn time demands and interference with appraiser independence are those owned or affiliated with regulated banking or financial institutions. EXAMPLE, EXAMPLE, EXAMPLE, EXAMPLE.
The failure of banks to properly throttle their lending practices helped to get us in this mess, and now the proposal is to let them run Appraisal Management Companies without state regulation?
It’s important to convince the Conference Committee to strike that exemption for bank owned and operated Appraisal Management Companies. Otherwise, the public can expect nothing more than the same "close scrutiny", "attention to detail", and "rigorous oversight" the Federal Banking Agencies exhibited prior to the current fiasco.
We cannot trust the regulation of bank owned/controlled Appraisal Management Companies to Federal Agencies.
The Senate has appointed their conferees:
Dodd; Johnson; Reed; Schumer; Shelby; Crapo; Corker; Gregg; Lincoln; Leahy; Harkin; Chambliss.
We're still waiting for the House to name their participants to the conference, but Barney Frank is sure to be there.
It's time to fire up the professional associations and the public to write their Senators, Representatives and the bill conferees to make sure bank owned AMCS are NOT EXEMPT from state regulation.
Saturday, March 27, 2010
Appraisal Management Company Bill Advances in Florida House
The favorable vote is actually for a Committee Substitute (CS) bill. This is due to amendments suggested as a result of negotiations late Thursday evening. A group of opponents, including Bank of America and SunTrust, headed by a team from LPS (owners of LSI) posed a threat to the bill. LPS had been meeting with one of the members of the committee and she was leaning towards opposition. The Committee Chair suggested we meet and attempt to work things out.
After a nearly four hour meeting, changes were agreed to, an amendment drafted and sent to the committee staff for drafting. We shook hands in agreement close to 10:00 P.M.
Although the committee meeting started at 8:30 A.M, HB 303 was the last bill heard. Believing we had a deal, the proponents of the bill waived speaking in support. To our surprise, the LPS representative rose and spoke in opposition. After fielding questions from several of the committee members, including several stinging inquiries from Rep. Workman, a co-sponsor of the bill, the Chair weighed in.
Rep. Alan Hays, Chair of the Committee, had poked his head in on the negotiating meeting around 9:30 P.M. the night before. At that time, he asked how things were going and was pleased to hear we were all in agreement and had resolved a number of issues. When he addressed the LPS representative that was speaking in opposition, he reminded him of the comments made the night before, asked if they were true, and expressed his amazement at his change of mind and opposition to the deal he agreed to the night before.
There was no debate on the bill, and the vote was unanimous in favor.
If possible, express your gratitude to the bill's sponsor, Rep. Hudson, the cosponsors, Rep. Nehr and Rep. Workman. Include the Committee Chair, Rep. Hays and Committee member Rep. Wood.
Appraisers should also know the Florida Association of Realtors really stepped up to the plate on this one too. There were four FAR Legislative Team Staff members attending. Florida Realtors also facilitated the negotiating session on Thursday evening. This bill is one of their Legislative Priorities for 2010. Trey Goldman of FAR is really helping on this bill.
Here's the way Florida Realtors explain what happened:
The fourth week of this year’s legislative session will be remembered as the week when issues went from important to SERIOUS, starting with HB 303, the bill that requires Appraisal Management Companies (AMCs) operating in Florida to register with the Department of Business and Professional Regulation. Twenty four hours before the bill was to be heard in the House Government Operations Committee, Florida Realtors learned that the bill might be Temporarily Postponed (likely killing it for 2010) unless agreement could be reached among the stakeholders (Florida Realtors, AMC’s and banks). The gap was not small. But locking 12 lobbyists, clients, appraisers and a Representative in a room built for six can — and did — produce results. A mere four hours later, at 9:30 p.m., an agreement was reached and a (late filed) amendment was drafted.Stay tuned.
When the bill was heard in committee the next morning, a win-win was narrowly averted when the AMC representative rose to oppose the bill he helped write the previous evening! Fortunately, we had visited with every legislator on the committee or their aide prior to the meeting, and the Florida Realtors secured their half of the Win. It also helped that Realtors in the districts of the 13 members of the Committee responded to a last minute Call-To-Action.
Passing this committee was extremely important. It was the last meeting of the Government Operations Appropriations Committee for the 2010 Legislative Session. There is one more committee stop on the Florida House side. There is still work to do on the Senate side as well.
Thursday, February 18, 2010
Reactions to Wells Fargo RVS Desktop Appraisal Announcement
Mr. Ramirez,
Thank you for your message and expression of concerns.
You may wish to know the post you found to be offensive has been modified. Instead of the Wachovia email, I reference an email from another person/entity with essentially the same information. That email DID NOT come from Wachovia.
Of concern is the fact you did not take issue with any of the points made in my post on Appraiser Active. Instead, your preference was to avoid disclosure, openness and discussion.
This “product” referenced in the email sent to appraisers from coast to coast has been discussed and debated extensively among appraisers, state regulators, AQB Certified USPAP Instructors, past members of the Appraisal Standards Board and users of appraisal services over the past few days. The consensus is that there are serious problems with the terms of the offering by Wachovia.
- It is undeniably a contingent fee arrangement.
- The contingent fee arrangement does not comply with USPAP.
- The contingent fee arrangement does not comply with Florida law.
- Appraisers may be in violation of the Scope of Work Rule by accepting the assignment conditions dictated by the Client.
In the event you would like to discuss these issues or make a statement with respect to making corrections or modifications, I would certainly be interested. State regulatory agencies from Florida to Washington State would be interested as well.
In the meantime, I wish you well.
Respectfully,
Frank
Francois (Frank) K. Gregoire IFA RAA
Gregoire & Gregoire, Inc.
Realtor - Appraiser
P.S. Several folks with an interest in the outcome have been blind copied on this email.
A letter from XXXXX could be directed to the Comptroller's office describing how such practices are contrary to their need for ethical, competent appraisers to provide appraisals for collateral decisions. Wells Fargo wants to engage an appraiser, but they only pay for the appraisal is the appraiser is able to report certain predetermined results (e.g. at least two comps in the last 120 days, at least 2 comps within 1 mile, all comps must be listed in MLS, etc.). The problem, of course, is that such fee arrangements are prohibited by USPAP because they inspire unethical behavior by the appraiser.
Since we are all appraisal regulatory agencies, we are bound to process the complaints that inevitably will result from such a business practice. If the appraisers agree to those assignment conditions, they have already violated USPAP. Whether it was Wells Fargo's idea is a moot point as far as our Board. If your friend recommends you break the speed limit, and you do it, you are going to get the speeding ticket, not them.
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I do not think XXXX should take an advocacy position on behalf of real estate appraisers; however, an advisory letter to the Comptrollers office on the above USPAP requirement, wouldn't be overreaching our mission statement, I think.
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My opinion is what Wells Fargo is attempting to do with it's desktop program, requesting a "hit" or "no hit" is a blatant attempt for appraisers to accept assignments based on pre-determined results.
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As most of you know I don't "weigh in" on most things, I sit back and observe what others are saying and doing. This group has, over the past 10 years provided me with a tremendous amount of very good advice and "food for thought" and for that I am very grateful. We have seen both good and bad times in this industry. I realize that our industry is constantly changing and evolving, some change is good and some is bad.
This current issue is bad. I only have two questions for now; 1. What are we as a group going to do about it or can we even do anything about it? 2. When the complaints start coming in (and they will) do we just accept it or do we hand it back to Wells etal and tell them that we, "Can't cure stupid"?
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After 4 years of college, 3 years of experience and years of learning, we now have the opportunity to earn $25.50 per day that won't even cover most of the fees that are required to maintain the data services that are required to complete this "product." Is this a hoax? Did they leave off the first number? A BPO is better than this. No wonder the banks have needed bail outs. This is the most insulting and incredulous thing I've seen yet.
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What a mess! Hard to be it could reach such a low. Seems like they will not be happy until they can have the value before the appraisal is completed!
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You go Frank! We are meeting today to finalize our position on this product and hope to send an email blast to our licensees shortly.
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The XXXXX Board may issue an official advisory opinion regarding this product that will address the contingent fee arrangement and advise licensees of the board’s position.

GUIDANCE CONCERNING DESKTOP APPRAISAL ORDERS
A new desktop appraisal product was released in February 2010. The Appraisal Board has received numerous telephone calls and emails about this product and others that are similar. Although the Board does not approve or prohibit specific forms or software used to deliver appraisal results, the Board does have several concerns about this type of assignment.
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Saturday, February 6, 2010
FLORIDA - Regulate Appraisal Management Companies NOW
Page 9, Paragraph 24. "Despite their claims of independence from their lender clients, First American and eAppraiseIT violate federal and state independence requirements with regard to appraisals performed for WaMu, and in doing so deceive borrowers and investors who rely on their proclaimed independence.
Page 11, Paragraph 29. "Almost immediately after WaMu retained eAppraiseIT to provide appraisals in early Summer 2006, WaMu’s loan production staff began complaining that the appraisal values provided by eAppraiseIT’s appraisers were too low. It was clear, and eAppraiseIT well understood, that WaMu’s dissatisfaction was largely due to the fact that eAppraiseIT’s staff and fee appraisers were not "hitting value,” that is, were appraising homes at a value too low to permit loans to close.
Page 13, Paragraph 37. "In February 2007, WaMu directed eAppraiseIT to stop using its usual panels of staff and fee appraisers to perform WaMu appraisals. Instead, WaMu’s loan origination staff demanded that eAppraiseIT use a Proven Panel of appraisers selected by the loan origination staff, who were chosen because they provided high values.
By Susan Taylor Martin, Times Senior Correspondent
In Print: Sunday, February 7, 2010
Last year, Global Appraisal Solutions of Clearwater hired appraiser John Viscusi to do property evaluations in the New York metro area.
But Viscusi says the company failed to pay him for 20 appraisals. And when he tried to contact the owner, Larry Holzer, he got no response.
Then Viscusi made an unsettling discovery. An Internet search for Global immediately linked him to another company, Appraisal Mediation Solutions. Its phone number: The same as Larry Holzer's. Its address: a UPS store in Clearwater close to Holzer's condo.
In 2007, Florida regulators permanently revoked Holzer's appraisal license because he had approved an error-filled appraisal done by a trainee under his supervision. The report didn't even have photos of the correct house.
The revocation barred Holzer himself from appraising property in Florida. But it didn't keep him from starting an appraisal management company, Global Appraisal Solutions, that could do business in Florida and every other state.
Sunday, January 31, 2010
TAVMA Blog - 10 Reasons for Federal Regulation of AMCs
- Compel the federal regulator to create a uniform set of standards for AMCs, which may include or build upon TAVMA’s own Standards of Good Practice in Appraisal Management
- Compel AMCs to improve quality as needed to meet the agency’s rules and regulations;
- Flag educational and compliance gaps in AMCs’ systems that they can duly address;
- Encourage AMCs to invest in IT to meet reporting and compliance rules (compliance, record-retention, performance report generation, etc.);
- Provide compliant AMCs with a competitive advantage over those that lag in the compliance area;
- Put AMCs – which at the core act as agents of the lender conducting functions that the lender would otherwise do and be responsible for – under the regulatory auspices of the same entity tasked with overseeing, auditing, and supervising the mortgage lending industry;
- Ensure compliance of AMC product development efforts to consistent and reasoned standards and guidelines; regulatory clarity leads to innovation;
- Provide mortgage lenders a meaningful set of standards against which to assess current and potential AMC partners;
- Level the competitive field while weeding out bad actors; and
- Eliminate the oft-cited objection that AMCs are unregulated.
Interesting list. Would anyone care to address these one-by-one?
Appraiser Active wonders why TAVMA and AMCs are encouraging Federal Regulation now. It's also interesting, given the increasing number of AMCs being created by unsavory individuals with regulatory agency disciplinary history, that protection of the public does not make the list.
Maybe if the Federal government had not demonstrated such an inability to regulate financial institutions and Government Sponsored Enterprises, we would have a bit more enthusiasm for the TAVMA point of view.
Sunday, December 6, 2009
1 More Reason to Regulate Appraisal Management Companies
100% Loss Warranty - Protection from the liability of an appraisal coming back in the future that could result in a loss. Will Match any Fee - We will insure competitive pricing and will match any quote provided in writing for any appraisal service.
How in the world can a company be an honest broker for an objective, unbiased, valuation service when the company has an interest in the outcome of the service? If the AMC warrants against loss, does it appear as though the company may have an interest in keeping the opinion of value on the low end? Might the AMC encourage the appraiser to keep the opinion of value close to the AVM estimate?
Is it curious that one of the main "advantages" cited is matching the fee quoted by their competitors? Does this imply a commitment to quality?